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ZAKARIA: The sense one gets from the outside looking at North Korea is, honestly, it’s the weirdest country in the world. It is the most strange social experiment. And the puzzle is how does it survive?
How
does it – how is that people just docilely accept this incredibly authoritarian
regime that’s not just authoritarian, but, you know, totalitarian, really kind
of tries to shape how you think, feel, breathe?
What’s
your answer to that?
KIM:
Well, I think it’s a combination of many things. It’s sort of this perfect
storm of, you know, you have, first of all, this cult, serious personality
cult. It’s religious, really. Absolute belief in the great leader, where, you
know, this generation – three generations of these men who, these hugely
narcissistic men basically wiped everything out of their culture except
themselves.
So
every North Korean wears the badge of the great leader. Their only holidays are
the great leader holidays. Every books, every articles, every television, every
song, I mean you name it, there is some – there’s not a single thing – every
building has a great leader slogan.
So I
think when you have that kind of a personality cult, that’s an incredibly
powerful thing to be doing it for three generations.
You
also have a very brutal military dictatorship that's been in place for a long
time, and also to wipe out every communication method, you know, there’s no
Internet. The phone calls are tapped or, you know, it’s a small country. You
can’t travel within the country without a permission.
And so you take away education tool. You take away any way of critical thinking, and you literally take away the tools where people can communicate each other, then I think that you have a nation where they just basically have the most abusive nation in the world. There – these men just own their people. It’s the most horrific place to me in the world.
And so you take away education tool. You take away any way of critical thinking, and you literally take away the tools where people can communicate each other, then I think that you have a nation where they just basically have the most abusive nation in the world. There – these men just own their people. It’s the most horrific place to me in the world.
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