This is always tricky business because we grew up in a country that had slavery for 350 years, we had Jim Crow for 100. We have racial segregation in housing, which is unbelievable, there’s an untold amount of it still in business that you can’t isolate, and then we sit around like purists and say, “oh I've detected some racism here.” It’s all around us! And we don’t even—we’re swimming in it, to some extent. And we don't know how to define it or limit it or push away from it. We all agree we’ve got to push away from it.